Unfortunately, women are "commanded" to stay with these type of men and obey their headship. No matter what the accusation is, even if it is proven by their two witnesses command, many are told to stay. I don't understand how a woman can look past her motherly instinct to protect her children and stay with a man who abuses them. Even if threatened with retribution, you would think that a mother would leave the guy and look out for the best interests of her children. Sadly, many women, including my mother chooses not to.
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The funny and the laughable
by Heartbreaker inrelative was reinstated recently .
then....i get a voicemail (from an ignored phone call) from my mother asking to have the youngest three kids this weekend, for "something fun for the kids" and since they can't fit more than 3 in thir car, they want the youngest, and this on the heels of me sending a email to state that i was remembering some damaging things from my childhood (father confirmed pedophile, but until recently it was assumed i was excluded from this) and that i needed some time and some space.
her reply was that i shouldn't let things affect my relationship with jehovah, ruin all the hard work i've done in keeping my kids with jehovah in their heart, and that she did the best she could.
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Contribution of Franz books on your decision to leave?
by Damocles inthe recent resurrected topic on franz' books got me curious.. how much did his writing contribute to your decision to leave?.
for myself, it was another brick in the wall but not more important than any other.
i was a little different than most in that i regularly read anti-witness stuff from the very beginning and never stopped.
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I had already gotten out before readind CoC and it confirmed alot of my concerns/ suspicions about the org and teachings. Combatting by Hassan amazed me at how much mind control was going on. I would listen to new teachings of announcements at the KH and see the propaganda and the agenda they were trying to push, but I had no idea that they were following 1950's Chinese mind control tactics.
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Anyone Have The 2008 WT library CD-ROM available online?
by Tired of the Hypocrisy ini searched for a link on here and the only one i could find is no longer available.
i would like to download it and save it to disk.
had to get a new hard drive and my backup cd is missing..... thanks gang!.
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I would also like to get a copy if any are floating around out there.
Thanks
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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009
by daniel-p infrom a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
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At what point will the third, fourth generation come in? Never ending horse shit to keep shoveling out to keep the date watching drones happy. I can see at a future international assembly:" I'm annointed Gen 2, which are you?" "I'm gen 3, I didn't know any 2's were left."
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Apologies in advance
by Heartbreaker inthis post may be all over the place.
i've still been reading, any chance i get, but don't post often because of circumstance.
i will have those "aha!
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The final step is like cutting your sefety net, flying solo for the first time in a long time, or maybe ever. I think it is a decision that you have already made, but that you are just scared to take that final step. That is natural, and you can take all the time you need. It is great that your husband is willing to leave too. Keep showing him the inaccuracy in WT teaching, and slowly he will see the real truth. This has to be done on his timetable, you can not remove these beliefs from his head until HE is ready to change his thinking. He learned the WT doctrine slowly, it may be the same way for him to unlearn the things that he still believes.
There are great things out there, great people. I found some of the kindest, caring people after I left, and you are starting to see that already. So get out, enjoy life and keep us posted on your progress.
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How many members on this board?
by Out at Last! indoes anyone know, or know of a way to get a total?
or we can count off individually.
if so, i'm 1, whose next?.
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Thanks Blonde, I knew you would know.
mrsjones5- Not number one in posts, popularity, or intelligence; most already have chosen their number ones for that. I was the first to ask the question, therefore I was also the first to answer, making me #1. It appears that you are #3, absolutely no shame in being #3 out of 25,516.
The next time you ask a question, be sure to be the first to answer and then you can assume titleholder of number 1.
I wish you all the best in your climb to #1!
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Chronic illness....how do you deal with it now?
by wantstoleave infor many jw's i know personally, who suffer from chronic illness, the hope of 'the new system' is what they look forward to.
you know, being able to throw the cane away, lose the wheelchair, see again etc.. now that you're out of the organisation, how do you deal with chronic illness?
if you suffer with an affliction, disease, impairment, how has your hope changed?
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Jamie bowers- SSSHHHHH, I thought that family thing was supposed to be a SECRET? Don't you remember that inquiring, trolling, lurking minds want to know?
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Chronic illness....how do you deal with it now?
by wantstoleave infor many jw's i know personally, who suffer from chronic illness, the hope of 'the new system' is what they look forward to.
you know, being able to throw the cane away, lose the wheelchair, see again etc.. now that you're out of the organisation, how do you deal with chronic illness?
if you suffer with an affliction, disease, impairment, how has your hope changed?
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Here is a song that guarantees a fix to any ailment or disease. Those from the UK take special note:
http://www.musicbabylon.com/artist/The_Kinks/Muswell_Hillbillies/152178-have_a_cuppa_tea-lyrics.htm
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How many members on this board?
by Out at Last! indoes anyone know, or know of a way to get a total?
or we can count off individually.
if so, i'm 1, whose next?.
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Does anyone know, or know of a way to get a total? Or we can count off individually. If so, I'm 1, whose next?
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Chronic illness....how do you deal with it now?
by wantstoleave infor many jw's i know personally, who suffer from chronic illness, the hope of 'the new system' is what they look forward to.
you know, being able to throw the cane away, lose the wheelchair, see again etc.. now that you're out of the organisation, how do you deal with chronic illness?
if you suffer with an affliction, disease, impairment, how has your hope changed?
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Jamiebowers- I can't use pain medications, because they make me mean.
Why were you so mean before you took the pain medication? Sometimes you were pure evil in your younger days. (You know I'm just kidding) I'm usually mean whether I take pain killers or not. One of the best aspects of my personality.